I listened to the podcasts and loved each episode. I felt as if I was an interloper crab, sitting quietly on the shore, beady eyes dashing back and forth as I listened to Estue and Plove’s lively conversation at the water’s edge (much like the ‘office water cooler chats’ that many of us inadvertently dropped in on).

In crab mode, I envision others joining me including those of the human beach walker persuasion (who may even be a politician or a person of influence who has actual power to change the future…ahhh but I digress🤣) in witnessing Estue’s and Plove’s yearning to have their voices and messages heard.

It is highly likely that within this imagined gathering, a surf side ceilidh will break out. Squawks of mournful disdain from a choir of gulls mixed with the enraged peeps of shoreline birds, and the roar of waves of protest pounding the sands, will all serve to get the words out, “No more!” as they struggle to protect the vulnerable. With a motto such as, ‘Every peep matters’ (play on the word ‘peep’ for ‘person/people’), Plove and Estue could change the world!

I am thinking that this podcast is a wonderful medium for inspiring further desperately needed conversations and actions. As another thought the content could be highly adaptable to a schoolbook about the environment or as a tool for environmental studies. Sooooo many possibilities so little time. What a fun project. This is important work that you are doing.

Congratulations to the two of you. Amazing! Would love to chat soon. You are so inspiring to me. Let me know how I can support you.